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Why You Should Live Life By Design With Adam Way

Bad Ass Mavericks | Adam Way | Life By Design

 

Growth and success are achieved not by bowing down to the unrealistic expectations of society. Instead, it is found in living life by design. Brian Dewald sits down with Adam Way to share how embracing this way of life taught him to stay on the right track and overcome his biggest career challenges. They talk about the power of master collaboration in securing business success and keeping a solid team together. Adam also shares his work on helping clients overcome financial burdens and trauma, as well as the legacy he wants to leave behind through his business.

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Why You Should Live Life By Design With Adam Way

Firing On All Cylinders For Growth

Here we are, our initial BAM show Badass Mavericks, and a maverick is someone who is unconventional and independent and doesn’t think or behave as others do. Mr. Adam, I’m curious, how do you relate to that statement?

I’m always looking at doing things in an unconventional way. I’m always looking for things to be bigger, faster, stronger. I find ways to be more efficient and am certainly cut from a different cloth from folks that are in my industry for sure. I love your term maverick.

In your industry in general, or is that you, in a nutshell, in almost everything?

I would say categorically me in a nutshell, but if you were to rack and stack me versus folks in the industry, I am an outlier.

We are going to get into some industry and career ideas in a little bit. I wanted to get your thoughts on something. I’m going to preface this a couple of different ways, but for me, I’m on a warpath for growth, and I’m doing everything humanly possible to grow professionally, mentally, personally, spiritually, and in relationships. I call it firing on all cylinders. When you think of growth, what does that mean for you?

 

Bad Ass Mavericks | Adam Way | Life By Design

 

It’s going to be growth not only for myself but for everybody that I’m surrounded with as well. It’s not going to be a me thing. There’s always the saying, a rising tide rises all boats. Although I don’t think that’s the greatest, coolest saying in the world, it is true. It is one where I get more jazzed by seeing everybody around me growing at the same time as me versus me being on a pathway by myself. A hundred percent agree.

One of the things I have struggled with in the past is staying on track. I can go fire on all eight cylinders if we look at it that way, and then I will get sidetracked somehow and six of them blow out somehow. It gets a couple of flat tires back to back. I have got two premises here. 1) Does this ever happen to you? 2) Do you have an anchor?” When you think of firing on all cylinders, I don’t want this to sound selfish, but like, if I’m not centered, if I’m not operating at my personal best, meaning headspace and exercise and all the stuff, I suck at everything else. For you, 1) Do you get off track? 2) Do you have an anchor like that? Does that make sense?

It does. There are always tips and tricks that you can do to center yourself in the moment, and I have a whole lot of them that I do every day. A lot of living life by design. It’s one where I am so schedule-motivated that my game plan is exactly what I would like my day to look like the very next day, everything from workouts to drinking water to when I’m going to have meals throughout the day. What am I going to accomplish? What are some of the most critical tasks that I’m going to get done? My thoughts are, if I can get some of the most critical tasks done the next day that I have outlined, I feel great about the day, whether I have accomplished everything that I set out to do or not. It’s still in the win column for me.

I have an additional follow-up to that, but I wanted to know, so if maybe you don’t get off track, is there a priority? Is it your career? Is it your relationship with Miss Barb or Aunt Barb? Whatever the case is there like, “Here’s the anchor. This is the number one most important thing to me?”

The number one most important thing for me is being authentic. I want to live life by design, and I want to mean what I say and do what I say. It is one where if I’m doing that, I feel great across the board. It’s never going to be perfect progress, not perfection but if I hit those three markers, I feel great.

I want to talk about this theory of a DX list that a coach of mine told me about one time. How did you start to develop that? It doesn’t feel like that’s a natural thing for people to have. Are there mentors or coaches? It’s super admirable, but I wonder, how did you figure all that out?

It’s in college, something that I learned. I was racing full-time for Fort Lewis College on my mountain bike, and riding hundreds upon hundreds of miles per week on my bike. I was working full-time for Durango 4X4 at the time, which was authentically full-time, like 40 to 50 hours, and I was a full-time student. It was one where to fit it all in, to cram it all in, I had to game plan my days. I didn’t learn anything in college other than how to game plan my days, which is interesting, but I learned that. It’s awesome. I have four years of practice learning all sorts of business theories that you would never use in the real world.

You have your schedule ironclad.

I figured out my schedule. I was going to get my mountain biking in like hell or high water because if I didn’t or if I wasn’t athletic, I felt like crap.

DX List: Disciplines Of Execution

I have this premise that a coach told me about a long time ago called the DX List. It hits a lot of the things that you said, and I’d love to get your thoughts on this maybe add to what you said. DX stands for Disciplines of Execution, and, I try to teach it to my family, my team, and everything else. Let’s not worry about all the BS we can’t control, and we are going to get into that a little bit too.

The disciplines of execution are a list of things, whether it’s per day, per hour, per week, or whatever. I like to look at it on a weekly basis and say, if I hit these things and I try to mix it up so that there’s some professional and some personal it could be a date night once a week. It could be drinking a gallon of water every day. It could be whatever it is, but I can identify, at the end of the week, whenever I go to review this DX List, it can help me identify or determine if we had a good week, regardless of results. Here are the actions and activities that we want to do every single day. It reminds me of what you said about scheduling it out the day before. As long as you hit all these things, it doesn’t matter what happens at the end of the day because you’ve got all knocked out.

There are so many business books that talk about thematically the same thing. There are people I call KPIs, Key Performance Indicators, things that are crucial for you to do. We both read the book Mental Toughness from Andy, and I’m trying to recall what he calls it. He calls it his Power List, and in his book, he talks a little bit about having the ability to do something over and over again.

I believe he said 21 days, and it becomes a habit or some amount of days like that and there’s a lot of truth to that. From a Power List or a DX List or something along those lines, it’s one where you’ve got your master list of things that you want to do globally over a 2 or 3-week period. Then there are the things that you feel good about doing on a day-to-day basis that make that day a success.

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Keeping The Mind Sharp Amidst Challenges

I want to talk a little bit about challenges. I’d love to get your take on this, and I will share a couple of ideas I have as well. When it comes to challenges and this is easier said than done it probably takes a lot of practice and maybe some zen or something to get out of the headspace of the freak-out moment or whatever the case may be. For me, I try to remain stoic. There’s an author named Ryan Holiday who writes a lot about stoicism, Marcus Aurelius, and all this stuff. It’s the premise of what I can control and what I can’t control.

Way easier said than done. Looking from the outside in, it’s much easier to help somebody try and diagnose those, whatever they are. Trying to think of how to lead into this a little bit. My question is, do things like that happen to you? How do you keep your mind sharp so that you can learn from them instead of getting wound up about it and things like that? Does that make sense?

It does. There’s a person on my team named Terry, who I adore. She’s in her early 60s, and she calls it “Terry’s bucket and Terry’s F-it bucket.” She’s like, “I’m going to go ahead and put that in Terry’s F-it bucket. Nothing I can do about it across the board.” In our industry in the realm of finance, investments, insurance, and what have you there are so many dumb rules that exist in every industry with every company.

We call them “Monkeys can’t wear pants on Tuesday” rules. I’m like, why are monkeys wearing pants? Why is it okay on Tuesday? How does this make any sense whatsoever? It’s like the most ridiculous thing ever, and you almost have to take life not that seriously. You have to say, “This is absurd. It is what it is.” I’m going to try to chinook around whatever these rules are. Be a maverick. It almost becomes a game.

What’s fun about it is if you gamify all that ridiculousness, all the “Monkeys can’t wear pants on Tuesday” rules. Over life, you crave for your day to be a little bit more chaotic and complex. If everything’s going swimmingly well, it’s one where you’re like, “It doesn’t feel good. I need it.” I thrive in chaos. It’s one where I like it. Believe it or not, you build a tolerance to building up a structure around chaos. Liking it, thriving in it. You’re like, “This is what’s going to set me apart from all of my peers being able to deal with it.” You appreciate it, as asinine and crazy as that sounds.

Once you can get comfortable in that mindset, there’s something about doing hardship. I will have to go back and look. There’s a guy I follow on a podcast named Dr. Huberman, and he talks about the challenging part of our brain shutting off. If you are doing something hard, your brain thrives. When it’s not doing anything hard it could be physically, at work, or whatever it could be trying to bench press, or it could be trying to squat 475 pounds. My son does that. It’s crazy, but your body thrives and your brain especially thrives on doing hard stuff. Share with me a time when you faced a big challenge.

There are so many. Where do I pick life challenges? I’d probably say the biggest was when I decided to go out on my own in finance. I started with this large financial shop. I reached the height of my profession. I was doing public speaking in front of ginormous crowds. I was on their board of directors and they called it something different.

I felt good about where I was, but I was like, “I’m working in an ecosystem where I’m not independent. I’m not self-employed.” When I left, it was a big deal. It rocked that company, and they were pissed. They sued me for $110 million. I was in my early to mid-thirties, so it was over a decade ago, but it was like trying to sue a young 30-year-old for leaving your crappy company for $110 million.

My favorite part is the ultimate FU that they did is they served me on my birthday. To your point, that was one of the best experiences I have had in my life because of the amount of grit that you developed and the amount of knowledge that I have in the legal and judicial system from 3-day depositions and their team of 12 attorneys hammering me with questions. The amount of clients that I can help that are facing other legal battles now. They are like, “I’m getting sued for $1 million.” I’m like, “That’s cute.”

It was a huge blessing. I would say that it’s one of those where I don’t talk about it much, and I don’t think we have ever dived deep into it. I would equate it to, have you ever heard of amazing Navy SEALs, Force Recon, SERE folks? Anybody that’s from that do you ever hear them go on and on about Hell Week back in the day to become a SERE? It’s one where the folks that I hang out with. In my mind, it’s one of those things that you do. It’s almost a rite of passage.

I almost think sometimes the biggest, best, most amazing people in finance that I know all have gotten sued by these big behemoth companies when they leave because it hurts those big companies. They have teams of attorneys. It’s interesting the people that haven’t gotten sued, I’m like, “GG. You’ve left a company. It must have been not that big of a deal.” If you’re getting sued, you’re doing something right.

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I have heard that once or twice before. You were in your early to mid-30s. By the way, did they win? Did they get their $110 million?

No, they did not.

In terms of adult life, that’s still not very into your whole thing. How did you deal with that stress and anxiety? If somebody was suing me for $110 million, the first thing I’d do is call you and be like, “What do I do next?” How did you get through that? That’s a lot of stress.

It is one where I always look at the outcome a little bit, and I look at it from a few different angles, but it’s one where, so if I was looking at that situation, I was going to sleep in until 10:00 every day, quit working at 3:00. At the end of the couple-year lawsuit, I would have a horrible practice to go to. I would not have helped people. I would not have done anything. It’s one of those where that’s option one, let’s call it. Option two is, I could get my ass to work, and I could help people, forever change the trajectory, be a force to be reckoned with in their world.

The biggest thing you can do when you leave a big behemoth company is be massively successful. That’ll piss off those companies more than anything because they do everything they can to make your life miserable, and they almost love and thrive on that. It’s like the ultimate FU to them to be monsterly successful on the flip end. It’s one of those where I kept that in the back of my mind, and I’m like, “I’m going to fuel the fire with this, and I’m going to be bigger, faster, stronger.” I’m going to put it in 5th gear and not be in 4th gear any longer. I’m going to kick it up a notch. It becomes your new reality where 5th gear is now normal, and you are searching for 6th.

When you started growing earlier in your career, did you know that might be a possibility that they’d come after you?

Yes. I remember having conversations. I had planned my departure two years prior to doing it. It wasn’t if I was going to get sued, it was when I was going to get sued. I knew it. I would equate it to no different than somebody that gets the crap beaten out of them by their husband every day. At a certain point in time, enough’s enough. You’ve got to stop the crazy and leave. You are like, “I might get murdered, but I’m certainly not going to continue to live in this environment.” It was no different than that. It felt like that.

Adam’s Biggest Career Win

That’s a huge challenge story. Thanks for sharing. It might be right on the flip side of this but share with me a success story. What’s a huge win that you’ve had in your life? There are multiple if you feel like going on.

I get the most jazzed when I can help folks the most. In our practice, probably where we shine and where people have a newfound appreciation for the work we do is when there’s some financial trauma, a death in the family, or similar. It is one where I have had 52 death claims where I have been sitting at a kitchen table with somebody, setting up insurance policies, helping with IRAs and 401(k)s and investment accounts and what have you. It’s one where, a year later, that person is not here on earth, and they are a single parent with a couple of kids and all those different types of things. It’s one where they said, “You thought seven chess moves ahead with everything we have done with insurance, estate planning, and everything else.”

When it all comes together, it’s almost magical, as crazy as that sounds. They’re like, “Now I see why you set that up five years ago.” That is the difference between an excellent financial planner and somebody who may do just a piece of the pie. There are people in our industry that only do investments and no planning, or don’t do any insurance and only do planning those types of things. I would say the success stories lie with delivering a massive insurance check. When they ask questions like, “Can I stay in my home or can my kids go to college?” Without question, “We planned for all of this. You’re going to be okay. Don’t ever think about anything like that ever again.”

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I’m going to throw a little bit of a curveball at you because this isn’t necessarily work-related in that sense. I feel the same way when it comes to helping people. I feel like a lot of high achievers and mavericks, badass mavericks, have something in their soul that drives them to help people. Whether it’s through coaching, mentorship, or planning. I have no idea. I’m generally curious if you do. What is it about people who have a passion for wanting to help others? Do you have any ideas?

My thought is it all goes back to being a kid. There are Lego builders in the world and non-Lego builders. There are people who like to construct things, build things, and see things get better. They build something, then take a few pieces apart to build it back a little better. It’s a constant iteration of making things better. Then there are the big bullies who come and knock down the Lego builders’ stuff. There’s either one or the other in this world, and I surround myself with Lego builders.

I don’t know if you remember ever telling me this, but it ties back to something we were talking about where you live your life by design. I’m curious about what that looks like for you. I don’t know if you remember when you told me, “We don’t want to plan so that we are living like peasants now and kings in retirement.” Can you put that into context for yourself? What does that look like? Maybe it’s about balance or fun. When I hear “live life by design,” what does an ultimate day, week, month, or year look like?

For me, to live life by design, it needs to be well-rounded. In a perfect world, I would work out every single day. I’d do at least 3 or 4 mountain bike rides every single month, do a few skydives, and engage in fun things I’m passionate about. We like to travel internationally at least once, but our goal is twice a year, every single year. If you can put those milestones in and build your calendar around them. I have a feeling that things expand to fit the space you give them.

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Let’s say I had a completely empty calendar and I’m passionate about work. The problem with people like us is that activity will expand to 7 days a week, 12 hours a day. Then, when you’re in a rocking chair at 80 years old, you think, “We were awesome at setting up investment accounts,” but did you live life to the fullest? For me, it’s about taking one step back and not letting work be our identity. It’s an important part of our lives, a place where we can be stewards and help folks. It’s important to be well-rounded and recharge the batteries with things you’ve always been passionate about. You love fishing, being on a boat, or dirt biking. If you never did that and you’re in a rocking chair at 80 years old, how successful was life, regardless of how awesome the mortgage business worked for you? That piece is equally as important to keep grounded.

Mark’s Perfectionism And His Many Accolades

I feel like I’m one of maybe a handful of people that know you from two sides both from a professional standpoint and personally. You and I have worked together. I worked on your mortgage before that’s how we met. Subsequently, I was trying to save money, and I have this massive firm, and I can’t seem to, can you take a peek at it? Can you take a peek at it? Do you remember when you bought your house?

February of 2015. We worked on it for probably a year because the guy I bought it from was in jail. Do you remember that?

We should have a comedy podcast and we could talk about some of the funny crap.

He had a personal representative show up at closing. It was a unique experience where he went to jail for mortgage fraud and tried to find a company to do title insurance in this place.

It was down to the last day. We were sitting at closing, and I was like, “The dude’s numbers are off by $100,000.” Math is hard. What’s the comment that you say?

This is my quote from the cities. We were dealing with Denver, which is like some of the worst building people on the face of the planet when you have zoning codes. I was dealing with somebody that’s like, “Monkeys can’t wear pants on Tuesday roll,” and I’m like, “This is moronic.” It was one of those where Barb’s like, “I will take over.” I made a comment to the city official where he was saying I wasn’t being nice, and I was like, “I will be nicer when you are smarter.” Barb’s like, “Time out. I’m taking over.”

Getting back to my point here or my question for you. I feel like I’m lucky that we have got to be connected professionally from us working on the financing and you taking over our finances, and then it’s grown into an amazing friendship. Like, “You are my best buddy. We do a lot of travel together. We also do a lot of work together. We refer a bunch to each other. You’ve been to our home in Florida multiple times. We have been to your home in Moab multiple times. We have traveled. When you got engaged, I was the one taking photos.”

There’s probably only a small handful of people who get to experience both sides. My first question is both sides. I’d like to know something personal that your clients don’t know that you are comfortable sharing, and then something professional that your social group may not know about your professional life. Start with something personal that your clients don’t know.

I’m a perfectionist to a fault, and it’s one where I’m sensitive. If something is not as good as it should be or I could have done better, I internalize it and it bugs the ever-living crap out of me. It’s one where my staff’s like, “You have the lowest EQ on planet earth. You are a robot, you are a machine. Nothing phases you, nothing bothers you, but that’s probably the furthest from the truth.

Things bother me now. Do I let it derail my day? No way. Maybe that’s why they feel that way. I’m highly sensitive. Things bother me, and I care about the outcome of how things go, whether it’s personally, professionally, with friends, everything else. That would be the first part, and I have already forgotten your second question.

Something professional that your friends don’t know. I could rattle off fifteen different accolades, and I feel like I’m putting you on the spot here because you are very humble. What is something about your professional career that your social connections don’t know? Whether it’s your mountain bike buddies or your 4X4. What is something without feeling like you are patting yourself on the back like crazy?

I would hope that none of my clients know about any of the accolades because, the reality of the situation is the only thing that matters when I’m face to face with them is how well I’m listening, what the plan is, and what we are doing. The fact that we are named Forbes, the fact that I was 40 and they are 40, or the fact that I was like X, Y, and Z top 1% of the world or whatever the case may be, none of that stuff matters.

I didn’t mean to put you on the spot or make you feel uncomfortable, but sometimes it’s cool for your friends and your social sphere to be like, “I didn’t know that about him.”

We don’t even publish any of the accolades that I have, so I try to minimize that across the board. I know that the work that our firm does is second to none. I make fun of them. All my glass trophies, we put them on the fridge in the kitchen where clients can’t see them. It’s on the top where they get nice and dusty. It’s one where they all say “Adam Weigh.” It’s a team sport. I’m like, “It is what it is.” We are great at what we do. We have plenty of accolades, lots of glass trophies, and when we run out of room, we throw them in the trash.” That’s what drives me.

The Power Of Mastering Collaboration

I get it, and I can attest, being in pioneer years for a long time. I’d like to know what makes you your team and your firm so unique. A follow-up to that would be, why are these things important?

I would say that we have mastered collaboration. Everybody says they row in the same direction. Everybody says, “I’m a team sports person,” but I don’t even know how many times we talk per week between texts, voicemails, phone calls, and Zoom.

It’s every day. It’s collaborative. Between you and me, if we are on the phone, it seems like it’s an easy 30 minutes, and it goes by in the blink of an eye. For sure, texts. It’s got to be five days a week.

It’s for sure every day. I would say if you counted each touchpoint, I’m going to call it 15, out of a best guess. I have the same with a ton of CPAs. I have a ton with attorneys as well. We surround the client by talking to everybody in their financial circle, whether it be a real estate professional or anything that’d be relevant. When people collaborate, good things happen. I find out new information, get to know the client well, and then I can spot issues that may arise elsewhere. I feel like, especially with younger generations, everyone has adopted this mindset of, “It’s not my problem. If they don’t qualify for a mortgage, as a finance guy, not my problem.” I’m like, “It is.”

If they are going to be clients for a long time.

The lack of personal accountability and collaboration, or people saying that they will work with others but then not doing so, is my pet peeve in life. We, to a fault, collaborate with a bazillion people who surround our clients. It’s so funny I will even talk to the people selling them a car when I have clients thinking about financial transactions that aren’t their bailiwick, I’m like, “Put the finance manager on the phone. I will help you make that decision. Let’s do it on speakerphones.”

That’s not done in our industry. I wouldn’t say it’s a skill that other people wouldn’t have. They could do that. It’s whether they make that a priority or not, but it’s super important. Those extra touchpoints are extraordinarily meaningful to people. As the saying goes, “People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.” They appreciate that. My clients come to me for literally everything. Anytime they want to buy gear or automobiles.

I’m like that ultimate research nerd. I love to research everything and will help with anything. I had a client called me about synthetic turf, and he’s like, “You did that at your house. Tell me everything you know.” I probably spent more that quarter talking to him about synthetic turf than I did about his financial account. He appreciated it. He’s like, “This is amazing.”

Mark’s Vision For The Future

I can talk to you about stuff like that all the time, way more than the pertinent mortgage transactions that we are in the middle of, or my finances, or whatever the case may be. I’d love to get your take on this because I don’t think I’ve ever asked you this. We talked a little earlier about your career and some current stuff, but what does your future vision look like?

My future vision is I want GWS&A to continue to be employee-owned. A lot of people in our industry are selling out to private equity folks and things along those lines. I will be 45. Let’s make up for a fake retirement age of 60. I’ve got fifteen years left or whatever the number is. It’s one where I want GWS&A to be a force to be reckoned with not 10 or 15 years from now but 50 years.

I would love to see other people in the organization who’ve been there for a long time succeed. Sara’s been on my team for seventeen years now. Eric has been on my team for I believe it’s 13 or 14-ish. I want to see them have the same realm of success that I’ve had over the years where we are spreading it around, and people are feeling good. That way, it continues beyond me. I’m formulating what my legacy is from a business standpoint and making sure that everybody who has come on our arc that we’ve helped continues to maintain exceptional service and financial planning strategies. I mentor three different people in the industry right now. People who don’t even work at GWS&A. I love to see people in our industry get better at what they do.

That’s a huge compliment to you. We talked about this earlier looking at what it is about people that want to help, whether it’s animals or careers or whatever the case. Folks that save turtles, and you’re like, “Who knows?”

It’s all plastic straws. You don’t have plastic straws, and you save a million turtles in Colorado. It’s a thing in Colorado if you didn’t know about it. That’s a thing.

I’m very thankful that I know that. Hopefully, I can save a turtle. It’s admirable. For you guys reading this, it’s crazy all the fun banter the team has. We amuse ourselves often. I’ll leave it at that about jokes like the Monkeys wear pants on Tuesdays thing. It’s admirable that you want to build this legacy for the team and mentor and help others. I can tell you’ve been a huge mentor of mine since I met you. Almost anything I think of like its clients. I wanted to ask you and I think this is a skill.

 

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About Adam Way

Adam Way is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER® professional and the founder of Global Wealth Strategies & Associates (GWS&A), a boutique financial and estate planning firm. Since entering the financial services industry in 2002, Adam has been serving his clientele with a passion for guiding and educating them towards success and financial independence. Adam specializes in helping families, individuals, and business owners in the areas of retirement distribution planning, education planning, tax mitigation, and business succession planning, amongst other financial planning related topics.

Committed to being highly proficient in his field, Adam spends a significant amount of time staying current. He has numerous financial designations – CFP®, AEP®, ChFC®, AIF®, CLU®, and CLTC®, to name a few. Additionally, Adam passed the following exams: Series 6, 63, 65, and 7. Adam serves clients all over the country and because of this, carries various licenses across the United States.

Adam has a diverse background in working with business owners, both from his upbringing, and the various companies he’s been affiliated with over time. Because of this knowledge, Adam brings a unique skillset that boldly serves GWS&A’s business clients. Adam’s acumen as it relates to the inner workings of business valuations, tax and legal structuring, company benefits, and complex buy/sell transactions, sets him apart from his peers. Adam is also a member of the Denver Estate Planning Council.

Following a strong desire to give back, Adam is actively involved with Rachel’s Challenge, a non-profit dedicated in preventing violence in schools. He is also actively involved with Trails Preservation Alliance, a non-profit dedicated to keeping trails open in the wilderness. Lastly, Adam sponsors a racing team, dedicated to helping athletes with equipment, race entry fees, and other support necessary for them to be able to compete. Currently, his team supports 15+ athletes.

Adam lives in Cherry Creek, Denver. Adam enjoys competitive skydiving, racing cars, racing trucks, rock-crawling, competitively shooting IPSC, hunting, camping, and any other activities the Colorado Rocky Mountains have to offer. In Adam’s time off, he enjoys spending time with his wife, Barb and his black lab, Diesel.

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